Bees PR team does it again as confusion follows confusion

30 Sep

When it comes to managerial PR, Brentford are top of the league. There can’t be many who still don’t look back on last season’s Villagegate affair, which eventually saw Mark Warburton swap the English Championship for the Scottish and Glasgow Rangers, with nothing but frustration. Yet we seem to have done it again after a lacklustre performance against Birmingham City.

Having gone down the course of the ‘new model’, Marinus Dijkhuizen was replaced after just 8 league games for reasons which have still not been made clear. Beyond a statement saying that we have ‘parted company’, nothing else of any substance has been forthcoming in the statements from either Brentford ‘official’ or Chairman Cliff Crown. Matthew Benham meanwhile, normally quite vocal in social media, has been keeping a very low profile.

That said, Lee Carsley was immediately installed as the replacement head coach in a flurry of positivity with those same club sources telling us why he was THE right man for this role. Which begs the question as to why he is then being quoted as saying what he is alleged to have done following the no-show against Birmingham City.

Jacob Murtagh has published a series of comments attributed to Lee on Twitter after the game, the most surprising of which is the admission that he doesn’t want the role and it isn’t something he “put his his hand up for”.

Jacob Murtagh's series of Carsley quotes

Jacob Murtagh’s series of Carsley quotes

As a means of motivating players and galvanising fans, its up there with installing a Leroy Rosenior and Terry Butcher double as a joint managerial team.

Naïve? Taken out of context? Or a genuine desire not to be involved in a role for which we are being told he is going to be occupying until the end of this season. Whatever the explanation, and this isn’t a rant agasint Lee – far from it; you can’t BUT admire his honesty – I just hope somebody comes out and makes a statement to shed further light on the whole situation.

By Lee’s own admission we were “flat, quiet, predictable”. With the team struggling, we need some positivity about the place. Fans were confused enough about the whole Warburton / Rangers scenario although many of us have had the trust to see how the new era will play out. I still want to – you surely don’t embark on a path of this nature to turn around so quickly.

That said, if Lee is indeed to be the man to keep us out of a relegation dogfight – and based on the first 9 games (yes, I know its one short of the 10 I normally stand by, but use the cup result against Oxford if you need double figures) that’s what we are heading for – then please come out and give us some full and positive updates. For everybody’s sakes.

Lee talks to Beesplayer after the game

Lee talks to Beesplayer after the game

There’s nothing worse for morale than angry supporters, arguing amongst each other and airing our dirty laundry in public. They’ve got an absolute right to feel frustrated and these sort of follow up comments from the broader club team aren’t going to help matters any.

We are where we are. This squad still has far too much quality, especially on the treatment table (where the likes of Jota and Josh McEachran are getting closer to a return), to consider this season a write off. But we need to start showing it.

Being honest, I think we are now in for a tough few weeks. I just hope our management come out with some more robust comms about the last few days and, equally, the future.

Nobody likes uncertainty – moreso when the fate of the team we love and club we support is so far outside of our control.If only the fans’ forum had taken place three or four days later but now that chance for clarity has vanished as quickly as Marinus.

Come on Bees top brass. Please, see if you can say the right thing.

Nick Bruzon


14 Responses to “Bees PR team does it again as confusion follows confusion”

  1. Lanesra September 30, 2015 at 6:18 am #

    You have to admire Lee Carsleys honesty but with players knowing that the manager has no intention of staying beyond the end of the season will they be really be bothered. They have signed their lucrative contracts, They will get paid no matter what but its the supporters who are left to watch and suffer. When managers asks players to run through brick walls for him, they will just look at him and roll their eyes.
    Would have been better to have installed a permanent manager who could crack the whip and change the fortunes, Mind you finding a yes man at short notice would be an issues.
    Jurgen Klopp is still available 🙂

    • nickbruzon September 30, 2015 at 6:19 am #

      Jurgen Klopp – could you just imagine? But his was the name on many lips last night. surely not……?

  2. KevinO September 30, 2015 at 7:44 am #

    What difference does the manager make under the new structure no matter who it is? Am I the only one slightly surprised it is the Chairman who makes the statement and neither of the Co-Directors of Football? You didn’t quite make the statement “our squad is too good to go down” but came mighty close, history is littered with clubs in this category who were relegated. Lee hit the nail on the head when he mentioned confidence, surely one of the most important ingredients for success. It is not only the players who lack confidence…..

    • RebelBee September 30, 2015 at 9:50 am #

      100% agree mate, it is not about coaches anymore. It’s about too much change too soon, and too many people meddling in a confused management structure. The communication coming out of the inner sanctum is beyond poor – been like that since “Warburtongate”.

      Maybe we will actually make the Premier Lge in 3 years – the Evo Stick Southern Premier League!

  3. David Carney. September 30, 2015 at 8:12 am #

    I would have thought it was obvious that next season Lee Carsley will take up the role at Rangers that has been identified for him. He played alongside David Weir, he was assistant to David Weir at Sheffield United and then joined Brentford shortly after David Weir. It is on record that Warbs has stated they will build a structure at Rangers, but it will take a little while to do so. Rangers will be top flight next year, big income and all key positions for the future identified and filled with top class people. Warbs knows how to build a top class team and structure and Lee Carsley is killing time until the position is created for him next season.
    There is no doubt Lee Carsley can deliver Brentford into a very respectable finish – possibly even the play offs once the ‘crocs’ are repaired and in place, but someone needs to get a handle on finding real football people to take Brentford to the promised land.
    Sure, keep the statistics, but add basic football nouse, outstanding people skills and a real leader that has like minded people working closely with him, in other words the next Warbs.

  4. Rodi September 30, 2015 at 10:04 am #

    The word “manager”, is still being used to describe a post that Benham has reduced to a glove puppet for him; brilliant insightful comment by David Carney, re the future move of Carsley to Rangers; I bet he can’t wait to be back with MW and sanity. Benham has now added disrupting the Youth Team, to his meddling experiment, using BFC as his test bed, to ingratiate his vain numbers project; it is already proving to have undermined the achievements and glorious possibilities that were potentially there for the taking last season, with MW at the helm; then a defensive, unknown and lost looking individual is shipped in, undoubtedly using the laughable stats system, as the front man on the touch line. Then a shipload of pretty average signings are brought in to replace the heart of last seasons team, who probably wisely left, when they weighed up what was coming down the track. I hope that BFC manage to cling on in the Championship, as that will be something of a miracle in itself, given the mess that Benham and his cronies is making at the club.

    • John Hood September 30, 2015 at 1:56 pm #

      Are you really a Brentford supporter?B.F.C. was on the verge of going under a few years ago and it was Matthew Benham who saved us ,with the help of many genuine Bees fans.It is M.B. who is financing the new Stadium which will secure the future.Who provided the money for Jota,Grey etc?Perhaps you might be happier spending your football afternoons somewhere else.

      • KevinO September 30, 2015 at 2:39 pm #

        Why is anyone who questions anything MB has done at all immediately asked if they are really a Brentford supporter? While acknowledging all the good things Benham has done and saving the club from extinction may well be one of those it shouldn’t mean you are not able to criticise something you disagree with.

      • Rodi September 30, 2015 at 9:46 pm #

        Go to hell, mug

      • hobbo September 30, 2015 at 9:49 pm #

        John i am with you mate, and he’s not alone, same old names keep popping up though, ostriches comes to mind heads in the sand.

      • Rodi September 30, 2015 at 9:50 pm #

        Go stick your head in a hood where it belongs and jump in the Grand Union;sorryKevinO, That GTHM comment below was assigned in error and was meant for the poltroon, Hood, your comment is very valid and fair, thanks!

      • Rodi September 30, 2015 at 9:52 pm #

        Hobo, your talking about yourself, again.

  5. Bernard Quackenbush (@BernardQuack) September 30, 2015 at 10:37 am #

    I too feel sorry for Lee.

    We have all done it. Been told of this amazing opportunity, been given the ‘you are right for this role’ speech, ridden on the crest of positivity, said ‘YES!’. Go to bed….

    …wake up, ‘Oh s**t! What have I done?’ Then thought about all the things you will be missing out on, the things you enjoyed doing, having to sacrifice valuable family time, when you dont really want to. Then start thinking ‘how do I get out of this?’ hence his quotes.

    Ultimately, Lee has never applied to work at Brentford. He was recruited for the development role and then promoted to the head coach role. He couldnt wait to drop his previous managerial role at one of his old clubs. So why on Earth was he offered this role on a ‘interim’ basis?

    For me the blame for this has to lie at the hands of Cliff Clown, Rasmus & Phil Giles. They have got it wrong yet again. What we now is an experienced head. One rather high profile name has mentioned on the GPG and the more I think about it the more it makes sense.

  6. Jim Rourke September 30, 2015 at 9:49 pm #

    The opening of the last paragraph really sums up the situation. I feel really frustrated and agree too that the immediate future will be bad times before good.

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