Dean marchin’ , Lee walking but three more points.

22 Nov

Brentford stormed to yet another last gasp win, this time over Nottingham Forest, as a 2-1 victory proved yet again the ‘never say die’ attitude in this team. In scenes reminiscent of this season’s game with Ipswich Town and countless more at Griffin Park over the last few campaigns, Forest played the ultimate price for letting the Bees play to the final whistle. But it was the red card for Harlee Dean that has overshadowed the points and the confirmation from Lee Carsley that it was his own final game in charge.

The big centreback was shown straight red after a stupid flash of petulance saw him lash out at Forest’s Jonathan Williams. It was the briefest of moments, coming straight after a clumsy challenge by Dean on Nélson Oliveira saw a free kick awarded and a tussle over the ball with Williams.

But however brief or aggrieved one might feel, there’s no excuse for raising your arm. Referees have been programmed to show red in such instances and to do so at any time, let alone right in front of the ref and with his own team leading, was utterly inept.

His cause wasn’t helped by Williams collapsing like a sack of spuds but the damage, compounded by the Forest player’s Lazarus style recovery, had already been done.

Harlee will be a big loss for us. He was one of the boys not doing themselves justice at the start of the season, but he is now playing like a leader” said Lee Carsley after the match. For somebody who was being touted as a potential captain at the start of the season, these were anything but the actions of a leader. The challenge was cumbersome but the subsequent action was inexcusable.

We’ve been saying for the last few weeks that a red card is coming, although usually in the direction of Alan McCormack. Given Lee’s confirmation that he’s had his last game in charge, this couldn’t have come at a worse time for the player given we’ll have a new manager looking to run his eye over the team.

I’ve asked many times who drives ‘official’ twitter and this was one of many such instances. Reading the match feed, it was as though we’d been somehow wronged.


‘Official’ twitter have their own view on the incident


Of course, ‘live’ comments can be made in the heat of the moment but the theme was then followed in the official match report, describing it as an “altercation”, before later adding, “Williams bounced up seemingly untouched as Dean marched angrily towards the dressing room.”

Football is an emotional game and things happen in an instant. That said, if one of our players does something like this then at least have the good grace to hold up your hands and acknowledge it afterwards. Albeit that, of course, such action is what got Harlee into trouble in the first place.

We’ve all got eyes and the majority view at the time from those who saw it was that the ref got it right. Terrace observers made comments including, “Deserved”, “Definitely a straight red” and “Furious. He’s denied us any chance of seeing Sam Saunders”.

Review of the footage, which has been available to all on the Sky website since 5.15pm last night, would further support this view. It would take a pretty blinkered fanatic not to accept that, in this case, we were in the wrong. Yet instead we plough on, North Korea style, with tales of glorious victories and atrocities committed against the imperious Bees.

Hey, don’t get me wrong. The victory itself was glorious! David Button keeping us in it until the second half turning of the screw. Sergi Canos opening proceedings when he got on the end of Harlee’s header – a final meaningful contribution before marching off for an early bath – only for an almost instant post red equaliser.

But, again, this only galvanised the Bees. Pressure built and wave after wave of attack was eventually rewarded in the 96th minute of the game. Philipp Hofmann fired through, and around, a crowded penalty box to send the crowd wild and Mark Burridge, up in the Beesplayer commentary box, to a level of excitement not heard since his ‘Burridgegasm’ at Blackburn Rovers.

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Sky viewers see the aftermath of that winner

But despite the win, I can’t help but be drawn back to that red card incident. I like Harlee Dean and it’s not particularly pleasing having to write negative comments about him, or any player. However, I can only call things how I see them. I’m sure he’ll learn from this and maybe even protest innocence but the footage is pretty damning.

Still, we are where we are and in Jack O’Connell have a more than capable replacement for the trip to Bolton Wanderers next Monday. Instead, the next question is more around who will be in charge for that one.

Lee Carsley confirmed after the match that it was pretty much his last game, with a new manager due to come in over the next couple of days. Who this will be remains under firmly under wraps with names as far reaching as Pep Clotet, Justin Edinburgh and even Neil Warnock being bandied around.

For now, I just want to thank Lee – a reluctant hero – for more than steadying the ship after the ill-fated experiment at the start of the season. Things didn’t quite work out , despite a glimmer of potential, but the transformation since the changeover has been an incredible one.

Lee has the honour of a ‘manager of the month’ award and the Bees are now just four points away from the play offs . No doubt there’ll be plenty written about the new appointment over the course of the coming week but, in the short term, Lee can step away with his head held high after a great job, very well done.

Lee Carsley MOTM

Lee  Carsley – HUGE thanks from the fans

Nick Bruzon  


9 Responses to “Dean marchin’ , Lee walking but three more points.”

  1. Gordonbankole November 22, 2015 at 10:08 am #

    I think we have a fair idea of who could be doing the Twitter feed, Nick.

    Carsley’s no nonsense, honest and common sense approach has been a breath of fresh air and he deserves enormous credit. His frustrated “ave it” hoof of the ball to Button yesterday was a quality moment. I’m glad to hear he’ll be staying with the club as well.

    I hope the comment about ‘Colin’ Warnock is a joke – he would set the club back years.

    • nickbruzon November 22, 2015 at 2:44 pm #

      Thanks Gordon. Like yourself, one can only hope that the Warnock reference turns out to be nothing more than a joke – but I have heard his name mentioned in passing.
      As for ‘official’ twitter then I’d agree we have a fair bet (assuming its not Kim Jong Un moonlighting)

  2. RebelBee November 22, 2015 at 12:10 pm #

    Warnock – kill me now. Surely not.

    You are a bit harsh on Harlee in your piece, in my view anyway. He’s not the 1st to fall foul of a snidey opponent in the heat of the game, anyways it gave us a cause and justice was served up in the last minute. 1st home win against forest in a million years, another hoodoo put to bed, I’ll take that. Loved Canos for his energy and passion to make something happen, hope we can keep him for longer – top lad. Best bees player on the pitch was Ryan Woods, the only summer signing that has worked out for me.

    Great win, great scenes – average division this year, last years side would’ve smashed forest.

    • nickbruzon November 22, 2015 at 2:55 pm #

      We’ll have to agree to disagree on Harlee in this instance. A snidey opponent – no question. But anybody lashing out / raising an arm should know what the consequence will be these days.

      • RebelBee November 23, 2015 at 1:09 pm #

        The red was right in front of me, looked worse on TV than it was. You’re right in that these days you will go for raised hands but it was soft, and nobody seems to have picked up on the fact that Blackstock came in swinging afterwards, no punishment for that. Tarks was sent off earlier in the season for a silly challenge, and Alan Mac does his thing as we know, it does seem that HD takes excessive pelters for his errors from some sections, whist others are overlooked..

  3. Gordonbankole November 22, 2015 at 4:14 pm #

    Harlee was an arse no doubt. He ballsed up in the first place, then his tackle was not 100% clean – he got a bit of the ball but not much and those can go either way. Just retreat and get on with it, I was hoping Williams had not been touched and would get banned instead, but that’s not going to happen. Of course he made a meal of it but the club would be stupid to contest it.

    Nick, I met you after Fulham away last year and it was great talking to you. If you remember one of the things we spoke about, then that’s my suspicion on the Twitter feed. Possibly a bit awry in his/her thinking, as the odd journalist of repute could tell you.



  4. Rob November 22, 2015 at 4:42 pm #

    Shame Lee is stepping down (would like him to either get the job, or stay on as first team deputy or coach). Looks like he instilled some belief back in the squad and upped the fitness levels in training. That said, the first half looked very much like the first few games of the season; tepid, clumsy (poor control and passing typified by the build up to Halee ‘ s sending off). I’m wondering if that was down to the further upheaval ahead of the appointment of a 3rd manager in as many months? Time will tell.
    Anyway, all I want to say is a big thank you to Lee Carsley for rescuing our season. I do hope he will be at Brentford in an influencial position for the forseeable future

    • RebelBee November 23, 2015 at 1:03 pm #

      Agree with all of that – 100%

  5. Bernard Quackenbush (@BernardQuack) November 23, 2015 at 7:26 pm #

    What worries me is not so much the Twitter feed but the description within it

    “Shows the home fans view of Forest’s man’s part”

    I hope the police saw this and dealt with offence accordingly.

    On an even sillier note, my day was complete when my #BeeTheDJ request was actually played. My very first request to get the honour.

    I tend not to go for the usual requests of The Jam, U2, Hard-Fi or The Clash, but rather go for something more obscure. After Marinus was sacked I requested ‘There is no love between us anymore’ by PWEI, and before the QPR game I went for ‘This town aint big enough for the both of us’ by Sparks. This time I went for mid 60s French pop in Jacques Dutronc’s ‘Et moi, et moi, et moi’ and lo and behold it actually got played. Although it got credited to some bemused fella who wanted St Etienne. Easy mistake to make.

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