The one stat that tells the story of the season

3 May

Whilst the majority of the football world were, rightly, congratulating Leicester City and Burnley on their respective Premier League accomplishments last night, over in TW8 there was equal cause for celebration. Not that one time Brentford loan star Jeff Schlupp was now a top flight champion but QPR losing 1-0 against Andre Gray and his team mates means that the Bees end the season as the highest placed London team in the Championship table.

With only one game to play, there’s now an insurmountable five point gap between us and the Loftus Road mob. Fulham aren’t even at the party. Hey, the table doesn’t lie.

London teams table

The ‘as it stands’ table does’t lie

If ever there was an incentive to really go for it on Saturday against Huddersfield then here it is. The chance for Brentford to really stretch out that lead over QPR whilst, at the same time, even overtaking Birmingham City (whose game at Cardiff won’t be the easiest) and snatch 9th position in the final table.

Whatever happens, considering the ups and downs of a campaign that saw us lose players, head coaches and, at one point, games like they were going out of fashion this is a stunning achievement. Perhaps not at Leicester City levels but still not one to be sniffed at. Moreso given how Dean Smith was talking about a relegation battle as recently as March.

I’m not going to pretend Burnley are our new best friends. The memories of the Gray and Tarkowski sales still linger heavily although it would take the most churlish amongst us not to see the joy in the supporter’s eyes when that final whistle blew. It would take the most churlish amongst us not to offer their players – even Joey Barton-  congratulations on a job very well done. It would take the most churlish amongst us not to thank them for putting the final nail in the coffin for any hopes QPR had of overtaking us.

Likewise, we can take some pride in the fact Andre honed his skills and began the  season at Griffin Park. Now he has taken his game to new heights and it will be intriguing to see how he goes in the top flight where, of course, there is further silver lining in the fact that the ‘promotion’ clause in his transfer will now be activated.

Not that the club ever reveal details of transfer fees, of course.

For now though, there’s that all important season ending stat. It may not be up to Luis Melville standards but there’s no denying it:

Brentford are kings of West London Championship football and there’s nothing QPR or Fulham can do about it.

Maybe next season, chaps .

West London football map

Nick Bruzon

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79 Responses to “The one stat that tells the story of the season”

  1. Jay May 3, 2016 at 6:24 am #

    Well done to the bees for ending the season the highest Championship club in the London Borough of Hounslow. Always a joke with Fulham fans that brentford call themselves the pride of west London when they have a TW postcode. You’ll never be a London club, get over it.

    • nickbruzon May 3, 2016 at 6:46 am #

      21st, isn’t it? Don’t hurt your neck looking up

      • Jay May 3, 2016 at 6:54 am #

        At least we’re not looking up whole divisions which is the usual case between Fulham/QPR and brentford. Enjoy being the best club in Hounslow, I doubt even that will last…

    • Lokster1889 May 3, 2016 at 8:06 am #

      I thought you lot weren’t supposed to care about us. But all I hear is the bitter tears of Fulham fans who managed to finish just above the relegation places despite parachute payments & the advantages that brings. Since we’ve come up we’ve played you four times. Not lost yet. I’m sure we will do eventually & at that point I bet you’ll be running around going on about it like it doesn’t matter.

    • hobbo May 3, 2016 at 10:42 am #

      Ok, lets bring Reading into the mini league as well in the area west of central London ,even the yokels have finIshed higher than Foolham , actually glad you lot didn’t go down, six lovely localish derbies next season if you lot and your team can even be bothered to be up for them.

    • hobbo May 3, 2016 at 3:22 pm #

      Know your history you Tarquin twats. Foolham originaly part of Middlesex until merged into greater London borough of Hammersmith in 1965 as was Brentford into Hounslow, Brentford was the county town of Middlesex, so thats another one up on you lot, lovely.

  2. RebelBee May 3, 2016 at 9:12 am #

    Is that the best you can do mate – really? Something about the word “London” in London Borough Of Hounslow may put you right – hope that helps. Oh and we did exist before the premier league started you know, you might want to check our history as you may not have followed football for too long.

    Football is cyclical, you’ll have your day again i’m sure, still I guess we won’t have to take any incoming from FFC given that we are apparently not local rivals or of any importance to you.

  3. rob May 3, 2016 at 9:45 am #

    Carry on cottaging….

  4. dave May 3, 2016 at 2:13 pm #

    brentford only finished above us as we have les and jfh in charge

    • nickbruzon May 3, 2016 at 4:48 pm #

      Hi Dave. By ‘us’ do you mean Fulham or QPR that Brentford finished above?

      • malbee May 3, 2016 at 6:10 pm #

        It was certainly a miserable place for you lot to be on Saturday Timothy.

    • RebelBee May 3, 2016 at 5:01 pm #

      Don’t worry Tim, we impoverished Hounslow folk have the rise of Brentford to cheer us all up, we ain’t going anywhere either so I’d get used to it if I were you.

      UTB

  5. Gordonbankole May 3, 2016 at 5:29 pm #

    That guy Jay is some comedian, though I suspect he doesn’t realise it (“the best club in the LONDON Borough of Hounslow – you’ll never be a LONDON club”).

    Priceless.

    In truth they’ve been very lucky to have two awful such seasons like this and manage to escape relegation. And as Rafa Benítez once said, “Eez fact.”

    • Jay May 3, 2016 at 7:53 pm #

      I grew up in Bedfont in the 60s and it was definitely NOT in London; It came under Middlesex. That’s why Brentford does NOT have a London postcode…Fulham is SW and QPR W12. Brentford will NEVER be a true London club. I used to go straight past brentford on the bus, on my way to see a proper club….

      • nickbruzon May 3, 2016 at 8:05 pm #

        Jay – thank you for your ongoing fascination with all things West London.

        For all the passionate pleas, you can’t change the fact that Brentford are a London club, like Fulham. We are in the Championship, like Fulham.

        The major difference being that we are 10th. Unlike Fulham, who are currently languishing in 21st.

        See also – the 10 points we’ve taken off you in the last two seasons compared to your 1 from us.

        I do appreciate your replies and I sympathise. Having been so easily taken apart / let down, again, it must be frustrating that you need to do your talking on the roadmap rather than on the pitch.

        See you next season. In London

      • RebelBee May 3, 2016 at 8:10 pm #

        Let’s try this again, London borough of Hounslow – maybe if you’d got off that bus you’d have known where you were.

        We are also the professional football club of Middlesex, playing in the county town.

        Hope that’s enlightened you, you’ll catch on eventually.

  6. Gordonbankole May 3, 2016 at 8:08 pm #

    Stop giving us more comedy gold Jay! You’ve surprised us all with your age it’s got to be said – we really thought you were one of the converts at the end of the 90s, which explained your ignorance. We were wrong.

    It’s been pointed out above that when you were growing up both Brentford AND Fulham were part of Middlesex. So which part of that do you not understand?

    You must be beside yourself that your “proper club” is now losing to little tinpot Brentford on a regular basis (as happened pretty often pre-Fayed). However, I guess the summer months will allow you to dry your eyes and dream of a better season than the last two – maybe you could finish as high as 17th next year?

    Regards

    Gordon

    • Jay May 3, 2016 at 8:15 pm #

      The bit I don’t get is why brentford wasn’t given a London postcode, yet Fulham did……….funny that – perhaps it’s because they’re in London! Why do you care anyway, better to be lumped into an area where they really are the top club, rather than pretenders to the three much bigger clubs just up the road…in London.

  7. Gordonbankole May 3, 2016 at 8:31 pm #

    Erm, firstly you are the only person in my years supporting Brentford who has ever suggested we are not a London club. Some might argue this is (your attitude is?) possibly a bit odd.

    Also, as someone who grew up in Middlesex in the 1960s, you seem incredibly ignorant about your home county.

    Thirdly, the Post Office might have retained some Middlesex post codes (and Surrey if we’re going to be pedantic) for places in London. I can’t explain it, it’s a bit of an anachronism really (I’ll give you a definition of the word if you don’t understand) but that’s the way it is. So get over it and move with the times – we’re in London and your club is currently dire.

    Regards

    Gordon

    • Jay May 3, 2016 at 9:14 pm #

      Okay, let’s leave it there. Chelsea, Fulham and QPR all have London postcodes but brentford don’t, and if I ask my parents in Bedfont if they live in London they will say no, but have it your way if it’s so important.

    • hobbo May 3, 2016 at 9:18 pm #

      Once again jay up to 65 Fulham and Brentford both in middx,along with Spurs and Arsenal now ALL in GREATER London, your a bit thick for a Tarquin from Bedfont GREATER LONDON, and a traitor to boot

      • Jay May 3, 2016 at 9:33 pm #

        Sorry for hitting a nerve hobbo but at least I didn’t start insulting people-usually the first sign of an argument lost; but not in your case of course. You still haven’t explained why all the west London clubs have London postcodes and brentford do not. I guess they’re historically in London and brentford is not……..would you agree with that?

      • hobbo May 4, 2016 at 10:05 am #

        Obviously not Jay, and by the way i live in Surrey with a Tw postcode and prefer that the Bees still played in Middlesex rather than in London.

  8. Gordonbankole May 4, 2016 at 5:53 am #

    The laughs (unintended of course) just keep coming and coming…

    Jay, you seem rather obsessed with the Post Office, so much so you seem to think they are responsible for deciding county boundaries. Sadly they don’t.

    You conveniently forget that your beloved Fulham was part of Middlesex until 1965 when it became part of Greater London, just like Brentford. So your argument goes out of the window again.

    Given your refusal to acknowledge the current state of Fulham FC, I can only think that this stupid geographical argument is a sidetrack away from that.

    Finally, back on the Middlesex subject, Shepherds Bush CC play in the Middlesex Cricket League, so according to your logic it looks like we have three football clubs from the former county (but still existent only in the eyes of the Post Office and the cricket world) of Middlesex in the Championship.

    By the way, you’re not Russell Grant, are you?

    Regards

    Gordon

  9. RebelBee May 4, 2016 at 7:58 am #

    Jay is the gift that keeps giving. Dare we tell him that not so long ago everything outside the city of London was either in Surrey or Middlesex – either side of the Thames, think of the boat race old son.

    Anyway it’s all good, most old skool Bees havent had a bad word to say about Fulham all these years, clearly that spell in the Prem has caused these new found delusions of grandeur. Oh the shame of sharing this division with us “oiks” from Hounslow.

  10. KeefyK May 4, 2016 at 8:47 am #

    I used to get this from a Millwall fan “You’re not a London Club” at the end of the day football and the position you finish is the most important thing and Fulham barely stayed up, given the fact that you’re still getting huge sums of money from the Prem, must be of huge concern. How long will it be before they start taking up the seats again to reduce stewarding/police costs.

  11. KeefyK May 4, 2016 at 10:02 am #

    And in response to the Brentford/Hounslow London question. London used to be seen as everything inside the North/South circular roads, but time evolves and places expand and now everything inside the M25 (London Orbital Motorway) Is deemed as being inside London, Hence Barnet and even Watford!!!. Oh and Bedfont is next to LONDON Heathrow Airport. All these clues.

    • Jay May 4, 2016 at 3:50 pm #

      All very educational, but actually nothing I didn’t already know. What anyone has still failed to recognize (or admit) is that when Fulham was in Middlesex, it still had a London postcode, because it was part of the original London postcode area ie in London! As all the clubs in that area have histories dating back to the 19th Century, it goes without saying that had brentford been in London, it would have had a London postcode, but it doesn’t, so historically Brentford is NOT a true London Club. As far as on-pitch matters are concerned, yes, we are in a bad place, but Brentford will always be Brentford and will never match the stature of its three more illustrious neighbours…and you know it. That said, believe it or not I have a soft-spot for The Bees……when there were no decent matches being played locally at either The Cottage, or Loftus Road, I would sometimes go to Griffin Park, in the days when the home supporters changed ends at half time…all very quaint. In response to the London Heathrow argument, they’re not going to call it Ashford Heathrow are they…….

  12. Gordonbankole May 4, 2016 at 5:39 pm #

    Thanks for getting back finally Russell.

    I have read back this whole correspondence, and I have to say your obsession with postcodes is very odd and quite surreal. When the Post Office have a say over geographical boundaries, I’ll concede the argument, but they don’t. You’ve finally recognised Fulham was in Middlesex (despite the postcode blahdy blahdy blah) so basically you’ve been talking rubbish from the start.

    Considering how things have gone for us and your “proper club” recently, I’d say it would be a bit dangerous to patronise us. Added to the fact that before the Fayed funding you were a mainstay of the bottom two leagues (and possibly Conference bound before Micky Adams shook the club out of its stupor), we’re talking a less than illustrious history from the late 1970s onwards towards the mid to late 1990s. I’m not claiming that ours is outstanding by the way, just saying yours is more mixed than those rose-tinted specs of yours care to admit.

    Anyway, no doubt you’ve been looking into the stars and seen into the future, which is why you can comment with such authority.

    Keep entertaining us with your horoscopes.

    Regards

    Gordon

    • Jay May 4, 2016 at 6:00 pm #

      Still no explanation regarding the facts……

      • Jay May 4, 2016 at 6:23 pm #

        What anyone has STILL failed to recognize (OR ADMIT!!) is that when Fulham was in Middlesex, it STILL had a London (SW) postcode, because it was part of the original London Postcode District ie in London! As all the clubs in that area have histories dating back to the 19th Century, it goes without saying that HAD Brentford been in London at that time, it would have had a London postcode, but it doesn’t, so historically Brentford is NOT a true London Club. Don’t get the horoscope bit, just stating the facts…go back to pre1965 and Brentford, Hounslow, Feltham etc WERE NOT considered to be in London. I was born in Bedfont, but did not grow up in London. Expansion has enveloped some of the areas that have been mentioned but they are not true London districts, just made so for convenience.

      • hobbo May 4, 2016 at 7:56 pm #

        For gods sake Jay, pre 65 Qpr, Fulham, Brentford, Chelsea Spurs,Arsenal all part of middlesex NOT London, no matter what your postal district,we were all absorbed into into greater London FACT. Lets just call them the old Middlesex derby games, i cant see you lot playing the latter three for quite a while so make the most of what you’ve got.

  13. Gordonbankole May 4, 2016 at 7:11 pm #

    Look Russell

    If you’re so hung up on postcodes as you quite clearly are, then Crawley (West Sussex) has a RH (Redhill, Surrey) postcode. They actually mean nothing, despite your obsession and constant insistence that they do.

    I’ll concede you this – Fulham is closer to the centre of London than Brentford. As Ranieri would say, dilly dang dilly dong. Great and well done. However they were both in Middlesex and now they are both in Greater London, dilly dang dilly dong. So I would suggest that they are the same as regards geographical location despite the irrelevance of the postcode (see above with Crawley and Redhill).

    I’m actually wondering now why I am being drawn into such a pointless and ridiculous argument. It’s really quite sad.

    So I’ll stick to football and why don’t you stick to horoscopes and stargazing?

    Regards

    Gordon

    PS. This is no longer comedy gold but actually quite tedious.

    • hobbo May 4, 2016 at 8:02 pm #

      Your right Gordon, boring, borlng Fulham.

  14. Gordonbankole May 4, 2016 at 8:21 pm #

    Indeed so Hobbster.

    Thing is, the postcode says (yawn yawn)…

    Actually, thinking about it, if the postcode is SW, surely by definition they are not a West London club but South-West. Obviously proof that they are plastic West Londoners.

    I think I’ll go back to watching paint dry.

    Regards

    Gordon

    • Jay May 4, 2016 at 9:00 pm #

      When did I say FFC were a West London club? There’s only one West London club, and that’s QPR. That’s why your claim to be the pride of West London is a complete joke, and plenty of others think the same.

      • RebelBee May 4, 2016 at 9:11 pm #

        It’s like monty Python with you Jay, people’s front of Judea / Judean popular front. So QPR play a west London derby against themselves 😀. Unexpected thunder twerp in the bagging area!

  15. Gordonbankole May 4, 2016 at 9:36 pm #

    Let me quote you from above Russell:

    “You still haven’t explained why all the West London clubs have London postcodes and Brentford do not.”

    So a day ago Fulham, Chelsea and QPR were West London clubs, but in the last 24 hours Fulham and Chelsea have stopped being. Interesting logic.

    This was made on May 3rd at 9.33pm if you’d like to check it.

    Fair play, I was writing off your comedy routine, but you’re back with a bang again.

    Can I suggest that before you come back on here with your oh so enthralling pronouncements, you actually decide what you actually think, as the contradictions in your arguments are making you look more than a touch ridiculous?

    Either that or leave it there as you threatened to do yesterday before popping back with another eight attempts to argue the unarguable.

    Regards

    Gordon

    PS. I think you’ll find that some GU (Guildford, Surrey) postcodes are for places in Hampshire by the way.

  16. Michael Mulcrone May 4, 2016 at 9:59 pm #

    Brentford played in the LONDON Challenge Cup which was originally played from 1908 until 1974, beating Fulham 2-1 in 1966-67 final. The LONDON Challenge Cup for London teams.

    Wightbee

  17. Jay May 4, 2016 at 10:28 pm #

    Gordon, what I meant was that QPR is the only true West London club as they have a W12 postcode. FFC and CFC have SW postcodes. W and SW postcodes are part of the London Postal District, formed in the 19th Century. Areas outside of the London Postal District were not at the time considered to be part of London, and Brentford falls into that category, hence the non London postal address. So again, Brentford is historically not a true London club. I gather from KeefyK’s post that Millwall fans think the same, as do many others. Drop the pride of West London tag and you won’t have a problem with others saying the same thing. By default, QPR are in fact the pride of West London.

    Rebelbee – your post makes no sense at all.

    • hobbo May 6, 2016 at 7:40 am #

      Did you know back in the 19th century there was a west London cup competition and guess what the Bees were in it.

  18. Jay May 4, 2016 at 10:39 pm #

    Forgot to say, I’m signing off from this discussion; it has been fun. Good luck for next season, and for those of you that travel into London, I’ll see you at the Cottage.
    Never did get the Russell thing….

  19. Gordonbankole May 5, 2016 at 5:59 am #

    My God Nick, look what you stirred up with this West London thing.

    Farewell to the one and only postcode Statto in this country, though shame about his historical and geographical knowledge.

    I would hereby like to apologise to Russell Grant for the comparison based on the Middlesex obsession; our friend Jay is infinitely more boring.

    Regards

    Gordon

    • Amy May 5, 2016 at 11:54 am #

      Don’t shoot me as I am in fact a Bees fan, but kind of get what Russell is saying. I live in Feltham, but do not consider myself to be a Londoner. When I go to work in Hounslow, I do not think of myself as going to work in London. The capital must end somewhere and for me it’s probably Chiswick with the rest being suburbs. My father, a life-long Bees fan said he never considered Brentford to be a London club when he was growing up. Sorry to put a spanner in the works, especially when it involves one of the mobs up the road!

    • Rebelbee May 5, 2016 at 5:17 pm #

      There will be a new London mayor after today, wonder if he serves the people of Brentford? I guess not Jay?

      Bet you’ve had a cheeky peek at your work on here today.

  20. Fulham Pride of West London May 5, 2016 at 11:59 am #

    Jay, I think it doesn’t really matter about the postcode and all that nonsense, the thing to see, is that you have touched the BFC nerve; the nerd supporters among them, who are present in every club, have such a chip on their collective sloping shoulders, that they miss the point that you were alluding to; Brentford FC, is a small little club , on the outskirts of London, that has never won anything worth a light, except a brass chamber pot from the local pub, which they gave up to Chelsea, unlike the many achievements of illustrious Fulham. The best feature in the place, the gasworks, sadly came down some years ago and they are planning to ruin the historic skyline of Kew, with an horrendous carbuncle of a stadium, which has no architectural merit, unlike Bolton, Brighton,etc.
    WE will put them to the sword next season and return them whence they came and where they truly are at home, in the upper reaches of Middlesex football.

    • nickbruzon May 5, 2016 at 7:30 pm #

      Just like you put us to the sword this season? Or was it last season? Ten points out of Twelve for the Bees make this my very favourite London fixture

    • RebelBee May 6, 2016 at 5:28 am #

      “Put us to the sword” what strange language, have we gone back in time? Most of the Fulham chaps I know would cringe at the banter offered up by their brethren on here. Other than the Al Fayed years and our spell in the 30’s, our clubs have much in common. The longer you refuse to acknowledge this the more enjoyable our encounters become. The bees are rising mate, get used to it.

      • nickbruzon May 6, 2016 at 7:00 am #

        Well said, Rebel. More enjoyable indeed 🙂

  21. Gordonbankole May 5, 2016 at 8:53 pm #

    And now another dullard comes in late doors, saying how the famously historic skyline of Kew will be ruined. Anyone might think he was taking the piss – oh shit, he might well have been and it was a bit of a crap attempt really.

    Bring back the postcode expert – he had comedy genius some of the time. Our latest visitor is just a bit predictable and pedestrian, and his smugness isn’t the slightest bit convincing.

    I think we’re dealing with a Richard Stearman standard troll here. Hopefully with a better haircut.

    • hobbo May 5, 2016 at 11:21 pm #

      Gordon, don’t mock the self styled illustrious ones, the Bees have got them rattled and long may it continue, i do enjoy a bit of banter.

      • nickbruzon May 6, 2016 at 4:46 am #

        Who’d have though it would touch such a nerve….. 🙂

  22. Gordonbankole May 6, 2016 at 6:54 pm #

    What a shame Stearman troll hasn’t been back.

    He gave the game away a bit obviously when he misquoted the Kew residents, possibly supported by the failed mayoral candidate, about skylines. Unfortunately when you mention Kew, the skyline is a Pagoda and….

    How I loved the bit about the carbuncle – it’s such a beautiful site currently with tourists flocking from all over the world to catch a view – best done from the M4 in fact.

    Brighton I have to say is a decent modern ground, but Bolton?? Looks like another Stearman cock-up. Very third-rate trolling.

    All in the name of irony of course.

    Regards

    Gordon

    PS. Did you know that Leyton Orient are a proper London club as they have an ‘E’ postcode? Crystal Palace are not as they come under the Surrey jurisdiction. I’ll get my coat.

  23. Gordonbankole May 6, 2016 at 8:51 pm #

    Well Nick, this has been a wonderful discussion.

    Firstly from postcode man with his “You are not a London club from the London Borough of Hounslow” followed by “The other three West London clubs have London postcodes” followed by “When did I say that Fulham were a West London club?” Well possibly in your last post mate.

    And if we’re going to be pedantic as postcode man would surely like us to be, QUEENS PARK Rangers are a North-West London club. Another clue in the name, a concept he seems a bit weak on.

    As for Stearman troll, I fear he’s possibly a bit embarrassed after his pathetic effort. He’s probably lost himself in irony. He’s waited two years to “put us to the sword”, maybe next year he will get his wish, but how funny would it be if they had to wait another season, in which case it would be fair to suggest that tinpot Brentford were now the superior club by far.

    This has been one hell of a weird season.

    Regards

    Gordon

  24. Fulham Pride of West London May 6, 2016 at 10:28 pm #

    Fulham are going to bounce back; pedigree counts; Brentford are totally counting on a bloke with bad knees; enough said.

    • RebelBee May 6, 2016 at 11:40 pm #

      Pedigree? Chum maybe matey! Who’s our bloke with bad knees then? Keep chatting shit old son, we’ll keep having your lunch. BUFD.

    • nickbruzon May 7, 2016 at 6:08 am #

      Please, keep them coming . Goals and points are what count. Good thing we’ve got 11 and 10 of them respectively from our last four games against your lot.

      Maybe next season. Maybe….

    • hobbo May 7, 2016 at 11:27 am #

      Pedigree counts does it, not any more matey, oh how it must hurt to be beaten by a bunch of mongrels from Hounslow middx.By the way its pride of sw London, but i think Chelski hold that crown

  25. Gordonbankole May 7, 2016 at 6:04 am #

    Ah, he’s back.

    Is this the bloke with bad knees who only played half a game? He was the guy who went off as you were singing, “You’re not fit to wear the shirt” to your own team. Maybe you didn’t notice or had already gone home in disgust by this stage. We didn’t seem to miss him that much in the second half as we coasted to victory.

    Please remind us how many poor seasons in a row you’ve had. The wait to return to your “former glories” must be killing you.

    Regards

    Gordon

  26. Jay May 7, 2016 at 10:01 am #

    http://www.historytoday.com/ad-harvey/london%E2%80%99s-boroughs

    By the terms of the 1963 London Government Act, again the work of a Tory ministry, the twenty eight London Metropolitan Boroughs were reduced to twelve, and together with boroughs carved out of, or assembled from the surrounding urban sprawl, became part of the area presided over by the Greater London Council.

    Apologies, but Couldn’t resist popping back on with this – Brentford being part of ‘the surrounding urban sprawl’ Take a look at the website, there’s an excellent map of ‘LONDON’ in 1899, which proves that Brentford, when formed, were NOT in London, so once again, Brentford is NOT a true London club, whether you like it or not!!

    Another excellent map here and absolutely nothing to do with postcodes!!

    Game, set and match me thinks 🙂

    • RebelBee May 8, 2016 at 10:16 am #

      So Jay is back with his dossier of wiki info. I’ll keep it simple again. Brentford is in the London Borough of Hounslow – there’s the clue. Others have tried to out you right but I guess I can understand the reluctance to accept their advice, there isn’t much else to cling on to these days is there?

      As for being a proper club, I think that claim went out the window when a certain Michael Jackson statue appeared didn’t it.

  27. Gordonbankole May 7, 2016 at 7:30 pm #

    Postcode Boy

    You said you were effing off for good. I thought this was a shame but now I’m not so sure.

    Well done on beating Bolton today and thanks for telling me that 117 years ago Brentford was not part of London. Now it is and has been for years.

    So when QUEENS PARK rangers were formed there whenever it happened, can you really call them West London? I think not.

    You have argued against yourself most of this week in pretty hilarious fashion, so for you to call came, set and match is about as funny as the game last week.

    20th is some achievement after last season.

    Regards

    Gordon

    • hobbo May 8, 2016 at 12:11 pm #

      Foolham the poo of SW LONDON .

  28. Jay May 9, 2016 at 1:43 pm #

    Gordhole, or whatever your name is…

    Fact – Fulham were formed in the London Metropolitan Borough of Kensington, in the County of London.

    Fact – QPR were founded in the London Metropolitan Borough of Paddington, in the County of London.

    Fact – Chelsea were founded in the London Metropolitan Borough of Chelsea, in the County of London.

    Fact – Brentford were founded in Brentford – NOT a London Metropolitan Borough and NOT in the County of London.

    Fulham, QPR and Chelsea are rightly proud of their London heritage and don’t like pretenders muscling in just to try and make their club sound better, especially when they go around calling themselves the pride of West London….pride of Twickenham more like.

    The facts are there, nothing to do with postcodes (which is also telling) and are indisputable.

  29. Gordonbankole May 9, 2016 at 6:25 pm #

    Postcode Boy

    You can see who has lost the argument when the insults come out.

    It took you a week to pluck this gem from the Internet, which dates back 117 years. I’m sorry, how bloody sad is that?

    Boundaries and geographical regions change, and we are in London. Have been all my lifetime in fact. I was born in Harlesden, which in your anachronistic world you’d describe as Middlesex. Oh, but it says London on my passport. Funny that. Wonder why?

    Time for you to get up to date after 50 years and pay less attention to the Post Office.

    Regards

    Gordon

    PS. So Fulham are a South-West London club (unless you’ve changed your mind again), while Queens Park Rangers are from North-West London. So does this make our friends from Chelsea the only true West London club in the wacky world of Postcode Boy?

  30. Jay May 9, 2016 at 6:55 pm #

    Insults?

    Brentford didn’t come anywhere near London until 1965 – as I’ve said all along…historically NOT a true London club, just a pretender, trying to make a small provincial club sound better than it really is…you know it’s true.

  31. Gordonbankole May 9, 2016 at 7:24 pm #

    You are very deluded sometimes Postcode Boy.

    1965 was mentioned by someone else. You reluctantly accepted it.

    Provincial is another hilarious one. Less than 10 miles from the centre of London FFS!!! By your logic that makes you a bit of a wurzel then.

    Time to get back to studying your phone directory.

    Regards

    Gordon

  32. Jay May 9, 2016 at 7:47 pm #

    I think you’ve had time to consider my argument and have accepted that Brentford are historically NOT a true London Club; the facts speak for themselves.

    I thought you’d catch-on after the postcode debate, which is still valid btw, but the facts I have presented since, prove categorically that the pride of West London tag you’ve given yourself is completely false and in fact insulting to the proper clubs which have ALWAYS been in London and reside nearby.

    I can tell that you would just love to really be in West London – I doubt your three illustrious neighbours would think so though………..it would lower the tone too much.

    I will as you say, eff off now, happy in the thought that you know the truth regarding your club’s heritage, which lies outside the boundaries of proper London and is historically NOT a true London club.

    • RebelBee May 9, 2016 at 8:09 pm #

      ‘Illustrious proper London club’ with a Michael Jackson statue out front!

      Case closed.

    • hobbo May 9, 2016 at 9:47 pm #

      The Bees are NOW you plonker, according to the football league , FA , city hall,the press, media, ect,ect, and just about everyone else except some LIVING IN THE PAST anorak oik from Bedfont greater London.GET USED TO IT, Boy am i glad you chose the cottagers instead of your local club.

  33. Gordonbankole May 9, 2016 at 8:10 pm #

    Yawn.

  34. Gordonbankole May 10, 2016 at 8:28 pm #

    So everyone…

    Postcode Boy had me more intrigued than I would like to admit and I wasted ten minutes while bored at work researching whether he was telling a load of porkies or not. Remarkably enough, if we’re going on year of foundation as seems to be his criterion, he is talking out of his arse.

    Fulham when founded were in Middlesex.

    QPR meanwhile played in Welford Fields when founded (Kensal Rise, Middlesex), before switching grounds every year to the likes of Kilburn CC…errr Middlesex.

    When Brentford were founded, as we all know we were in Middlesex.

    The absorption of various parts of Middlesex into London happened at different rates, but in 1965 we were all the same.

    So what our favourite pedant seems not to understand is, as pointed out very early on, we’re all Middlesex clubs. Original County of London we were not whereas the others were, Greater London we all are.

    So I really look forward to the one sadster up the other end singing, ‘If you’re original County of London, clap your hands’, while everyone else in the ground (including his own) wonders what the fuck he is talking about.

    I’m sure he is still very happy about this.

    Regards

    Gordon

    • nickbruzon May 11, 2016 at 6:04 am #

      So, what your saying is, Fulham AREN’T a London club …. 😉

    • RebelBee May 11, 2016 at 10:35 am #

      Love it when a pedant is finally “out pedanted” – quality.

      Fulham, from the shire in middle earth,

  35. Gordonbankole May 11, 2016 at 4:12 pm #

    Actually I got it wrong – if you look on his 1899 map which apparently proves his case (??), Welford Fields in Kensal Rise (QPR’s original ground) remained firmly outside his beloved County of London even after the boundary changes. So actually they are no different to us.

    Anyway, I’ll give him another chant for next year:

    “Stand up if you were first adopted into the County of London before the others, stand up…” A bit of an alternative to “You’re not fit to wear the shirt” which they sing to their own players.

    Regards

    Gordon

  36. Gordonbankole May 12, 2016 at 4:07 pm #

    Looks like game, set and match to me then given the 48-hour radio silence…

    • nickbruzon May 12, 2016 at 5:59 pm #

      It’ll probably take that long for a carrier pigeon to reach out corner of West London from the Home Counties

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