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A ball of confusion in the cup. Matt Dyson talks Warbs, radio and football ahead of Brentford v Nottingham Forest

11 Aug

Another League cup draw; another ball of confusion. If the first round draw was a farce (Charlton being drawn both home and away) things were no better second time around. Brentford will meet QPR in the second round of the League Cup. Seemingly the game to be played at Griffin Park on first call but the somewhat odd use of a third pot to determine ‘home’ or ‘away’ left fans and officials what we will politely call ‘baffled’. All this before we get to the main event of the next few days – the visit of Nottingham Forest in the league.

Who’d have thought that using three pots to determine a two team cup tie would end in anything but a cock up? And sure enough, it did. Despite the Bees being called as ‘home’ by former player John Salako, question marks were immediately raised over the colour of his venue ball. Even official, once more displaying this season’s new found sense of humour, hit the nail firmly on the head.

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They weren’t alone in wondering just what was going on. Supporter comment on twitter quickly cut to the nub of the matter

Lou Boyd: Hounslow v Hammersmith in a World Cup qualifier I heard

Lee : And Dianne Abbott has concluded that the game will be played on the 43rd September

Oh Fuffuxake!: Why don’t we just play at Craven Cottage?

Even a QPR fan, James Skinner, getting in on the action: How about doing the first half at Brentford, then everyone gets a bus to Loftus Road for the second?

Emma Briden: Please don’t get changed to away cause going to that shit hole once a season is enough..

Alas Emma, it eventually transpired that Brentford are due an additional visit to Loftus Road. Instead of home comforts we have cramped seating, no beer and apathetic support from our hosts. On the plus side, the choice of opponents means that passage to round three remains very much on the cards. How good would it be to see an early season rematch between Jota and Jake Bidwell?

At least it wasn’t just us who suffered. Charlton, Bristol City and Ipswich have also had home ties rebranded as road trips.

Red, H = home. White, A = away. Simple? Surely? Apparently not. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – just give me Jim Rosenthal, a lectern, some fascinating facts and 64 balls. Problem solved.

John Salako cup draw

Confused faces at the draw. Home? Away? Help? Anyone?

Still, all that’s to come. Next up for the Bees are Nottingham Forest on Saturday afternoon. With Mark Warburton in charge.

We all know how that story ended previously and, whilst the full facts behind his departure seem limited to that explanation about the changed structure and approach differing from his football philosophy, there are more than enough other theories and suppositions doing the rounds. Warbs remains a hero to many; not so much others. That’s football and we’ll probably never know the whole truth on this one.

Yet whatever the catalyst, we’ve all moved on. Mark is now manager at a Nottingham Forest side who almost went down last season but this campaign have won their opening games. Millwall in the league and Shrewsbury Town in the Cup. You can’t ask for more than that and Matthew Benham will no doubt be more than keen to get one over his former charge. But can we do it?

stickers-matt-videoWell, to find out we’ve caught up with one Forest fan whose voice may be familiar to anybody up and about between 6-10am.  Absolute Radio DJ Matt Dyson. The co-host of Saturday afternoon show Rock ‘n’ Roll football, he also mans the sportsdesk on the award winning Christian O’Connell breakfast show and even has a weekly podcast, Gameweek, talking (and singing) all things Fantasy Football.

We can only start with Mark Warburton. A legend to many at Griffin Park and now carving out a new reputation at the City Ground. What’s your take on how he has settled in? And the opinion of the broader fan base? Well he kept us up! So that was good.  He comes to us with a good reputation and seems like the right man for the job.  He’s got his backroom team around him and I hope our new Greek owners will give him the backing he needs.  We should certainly improve this season, after years of back to back decline under the Kuwaiti fridge magnate who used to run our club.

Warburton has made a few good signings from Scotland – a place he knows well from his time at Rangers.  I’m glad he’s not spending loads on big name players on huge salaries whose careers are on the way down.  He seems to be going for young hungry players and I think that is the key to getting out of the Championship.  Not big names who don’t give 100 per cent (e.g. Nicklas Bentdner).

Look at a club like Manchester United, where the spectre of Fergie still looms over anyone to follow in his footsteps. He’s up there in the stand looking down; a stand with his own name on it. Yet at Forest you have one of the greatest names the game has ever seen to contend with. Can Warbs escape from the shadow of Brian Clough? Well Fergie was literally in the stands at Old Trafford watching Moyes like a red faced angry hawk every game, God has left the building.  Brian’s name is quite rightly adorning what used to be called the Executive Stand (despite very few execs ever going to watch the Tricky Trees) and I don’t think his amazing legacy should affect our current manager.

What he achieved is something that all clubs should try and emulate.  Leicester came close, but didn’t get those back to back European Cups.  No cigar, I’m afraid guys.  Clough is quite rightly celebrated to this day by all Forest fans, for being the best thing to’ve ever happened to football in this country. So, no, I don’t think it will effect Warbs.

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Warbs – in there somewhere. Will he be as popular at the City Ground as Griffin Park?

Will he bring success back to The City Ground? We’ve had pre-season optimism many times in recent years. We get through managers quicker than most people get through bottles of shampoo.  I’d just be happy with a season of consolidation and then a play-off push next year.  He’s the best man available to us right now and I hope he’s given the rime and backing to achieve big things.  But the crucial thing he needs is TIME.  Some old trigger-happy owners never seemed to realise that.

Having survived last time around, you’ve already sold Britt Assombalonga to Middlesbrough for £14m. Good business (he missed a sitter at Griffin Park last season) with the chance to re-invest ? Or will this make things even harder for you?  He is a very natural goal scorer the like of which we’ve not seen at the City Ground for many years. But he had a really bad knee injury and was still recovering last season.  We signed him for £5 million from Peterborough a few years back, so I think it’s good business and a good profit.  I was hoping he’d go to a Premier League side though, as he will no doubt score against us this season.

Where do you see Nottingham Forest finishing this season? I’ve called 5th for Brentford so optimism is allowed.  I’d genuinely be happy with mid-table. After all the years of hurt, we just need to consolidate.

As a fan, what are your long term aspirations for the football club?Premier League, obvs.  But I’m not holding my breath.

Working in radio, specifically Rock n Roll football on a Saturday afternoon, how often can you get to see the team play? In short, not very often.  I’m really gutted to me missing the Brentford game because I’ve had a few great times stood behind the goal in the huge open terrace at Griffin Park.  Lovely old ground and the whole pub in each corner thing is also nice. We never seem to do very well here though, So it’s probably for the best that I’m not at this one.

You star on the breakfast show alongside fellow football fans in Christian (Southampton) and Richie Firth (Arsenal). Like Forest, Southampton have been up and down over the years but there seems to be a sense of entitlement from the Arsenal ‘faithful’ like no other club I’ve seen. Do you have any sympathy for the likes of Richie and those jumping on the ‘Wenger out’ bandwagon?  No. No sympathy whatsoever for the spoiled brats that go along to that ground and  are more interested in talking to their girlfriends on FaceTime than watching the match.  They’ve never known really bad times so aren’t in a position to fully appreciate the good times and they throw their toys out of the pram whenever they drop out of the top 4.  They don’t know they’re born!

Also, I’ve got quite a few mates who are glory hunting Gunners I’d much rather talk football with supporters of REAL football teams with proud histories like Forest and Brentford (…apart from the ‘proud history’ bit).

Christian once debunked the urban legend that Cameron Diaz was a Brentford supporter when interviewing the ‘Something about Mary’ star for the breakfast show. But what’s the scoop with Jason Statham? Whilst the likes of Stuart Broad, James Dean Bradfield and even Su Pollard are confirmed Forest fans, is this another story that’s too good to be true?  Sounds like bollocks to me

Why should people listen to Rock n Roll football on a Saturday? It’s a bit of an alternative to the serious, formal and frankly boring sports coverage that’s saturated the media in this country.  We give you top music and all the goals as they go in with one of the best young comedians in the UK at the moment, Rob Beckett, on the wheels of steel.  We also regularly intersperse the football with clips of Elaine Page laughing, Ronaldo selling blankets and Nigel Spink talking about his love of Ribena.

You can read more from Matt in this week’s ‘official’ matchday programme. The Gameweeek podcast can be found at the i-tunes store   – its free and well worth a listen for anyone with an interest in football – fantasy or otherwise.

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The Gameweek podcast – out now

Nick Bruzon

 

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Looking good or bad dress sense? Kit Obsessive is back

16 Aug

Following on from today’s other new , regular feature (The Last Word on….) part of the big match build up to every Brentford home game now includes a revisit to the Kit Obsessive feature. With Nottingham Forest being this evening’s visitors to Griffin Park, it’s another chance to wallow in kit heaven and kit hell.

The name Nottingham Forest is one that conjures up all sorts of wonderful footballing imagery and memories. Back to back European Cup triumphs. Brian Clough. Stuart Pearce and Des Walker. And, of course, that, famous badge.

Much like Sheffield Wednesday’s iconic outline ‘owl’, Forest have opted for a similar style crest. Equally, it has one that has been left pretty much untouched since it first saw the light of day in March 1974. Then again, why would you need to change? The name Forest, sitting below the outline of a Sherwood tree emerging from the River Trent, is one recognised the footballing world over.

And if the badge has remained untouched over the years, much can be said of Forest’s colours. Their red shirts (with the odd bit of white trim) and white shorts are a template that has had little alteration to this very day.

Despite these apparent constraints, there has still been plenty of room for manouevre in our four categories: The best; The worst; The away; The unfortunate design/Retro Classic.

The best: Adidas 1984-86 home.  From the mid seventies to the late eighties, the Forest locker room was dominated by Umbro and Adidas. Pretty much any shirt from this period could have made it into a category that has caused me the biggest challenge of the season.

It was a period that saw the first use of the now famous new badge and the European Cup triumphs over Malmo and Hamburg in a simple but now legendary Adidas top. Even the addition of pinstripes (81-84) or subtle chequerboard effect (86-88) were both contributions that gave a positive twist to this most simple of colour schemes. Truly, it was golden era for Forest on the pitch and off the peg.

However, the winner is one which may cause controversy, simply because it isn’t associated with a trophy or a tilt at the league title. But it is one that sticks in my own mind’s eye, almost thirty years later, as the one worn by Johnny Metgod when he scored THAT free kick v West Ham (even now, the strike, and the celebration, deserve a look YouTube).

It combines the classic red and white trim with a central badge (always popular) and an Adidas logo on each arm, giving a slightly less cluttered feel in an era that had just started to see sponsorship become the norm. People may not drink Skol these days (outside of Brazil where, apparently, it is their most popular beer brand) but even non-Forest fans like myself won’t forget it.

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The Worst: Umbro 1996-98. If Forest were football, and fashion, kings during the 80s, the following decade saw them in some serious trouble. For a team whose shirt had only ever been red, albeit with a hint of red, what came next was just bonkers.

The brilliance of Umbro’s 1992-94 effort (more, later) was instantly followed by four years of sartorial pain. The successor to that one saw the addition of black collars along with a broad, vertical stripe in the same colour that stretched from each shoulder then stopped, abruptly, half way down.

It was a motif that, whilst totally at odds with Forest’s natural colour scheme, was then given a twist from 1996-1998 for what is, in my opinion, their worst ever shirt. This time, the black stripe starts in the middle, but gets progressively fainter until it ends at the sponsor. As though somebody had used the shirt to wipe off a paintbrush after creosoting a fence. The same design was repeated down the sleeves.

The famous club badge, meanwhile, is overcomplicated by being styled red and then sat inside a large white oval. The only positive? Black has never again been used since.

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The away: Umbro 1996-97. What on earth happened at Umbro following Euro ’96? Whilst, normally, this category highlights a killer kit, I’m selecting one that, given the horror of the home shirt, needs further review to wonder how on earth they also mangled the ‘away’.

There’s nothing wrong with yellow and blue as a scheme. It is one Forest have used many times and, especially in the early 80s, looked incredible. Sadly, this doesn’t. If the home version looked as though somebody had run a paintbrush down the front, the away has had the whole can chucked at it.

Closer inspection actually reveals this as two graffiti style reinterpretations of that famous badge. A clumsy attempt to ‘get down with da kidz’ or something that had been put together by a four year old armed with a blue crayon?

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The retro classic: Umbro 1992-94. Now this is a thing of beauty. Umbro’s vintage stylings have already won the best ever Ipswich shirt and this one came awfully close for Forest.

In the end, I’ve opted for it being their retro classic  – the quintessential example of simplicity and style as the club looked to revisit the 1930s. Floppy collars, button up neck, decent use of white as the offset pinstripe colour and, for once, a surround that enhances the club badge. It wasn’t until 2010 that the club could even come close to the heights achieved here.

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Nick Bruzon